Lanarkshire, Scotland and Deeside, North Wales
2. The Shropshire Parish Records
6. John StreffordIntroduction:
This history starts by using information from the Shropshire (Hereford Diocese) Parish Records. These records are held on microfiche, and some in written transcription, at the Shropshire County Archives in Shrewsbury; and also on microfilm at Herefordshire County Archives. Herefordshire County Archives also holds on microfilm all the Bishops Transcripts for Shropshire (Hereford) Diocese; also Shropshire (Hereford Diocese) Wills. Some microfiches are also available on loan to members from the Shropshire Family History Society. Also the South West Shropshire Historical & Archaeological Group produces scholarly written transcripts for some Parishes, of which I used the transcripts for Bishops Castle. I also used the Parish of Welshpool 1772-1812 Baptisms written transcript of the Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society. Other transcriptions are also available on CD’s. Also available on CD are Burial and Assize records for Shropshire from S.F.H.S. And last but not least are the records of the I.G.I. and the English 1881 Census, freely available on the Internet from the Church of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons) via the Internet.
I have used all of these resources and more, and wish to thank: Shropshire County Archives, Herefordshire County Archives, Powys County Archives, Flintshire Record Office, Motherwell Library Heritage Centre. ‘Scotlands People’; S.F.H.Soc.; S.H.& A.Soc., S.W group; Ian Preece, Maggi Blythin, Simon Jervis; The Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society; S & N Genealogy, Ancestry.com; the I.G.I. (Mormons). Also the Internet search and copying facilities of the U.K. National Archives and English G.R.O. Others are specifically acknowledged in the text.
The Parish Records pre-date the beginning of the official recording of Births, Marriages and Deaths in 1837. Until relatively recently Parish Records were kept in the Parish, where some have suffered the ravages of time. Now nearly all are now kept at County or National Archives where the originals have been filmed – to be available to all, and the originals conserved. Note that the Parish Records may exist in two forms. The original record which was kept at the Parish, and the yearly transcript of the Parish Record which was sent to the Dioscesan Bishop. The Bishops Transcripts are held at Dioscesan Record Centres; e.g. Herefordshire Archives hold the Bishops Transcripts for the Parishes of Shropshire which were/are in Hereford Diocese. The oldest Parish Records have little information other than names, often without ages. Gradually the amount of information recorded increased and eventually recording forms were, more or less, prescribed. However all these records were entered by hand, with varying legibility – early records may be written in Latin. They are not universally indexed, though transcriptions may be indexed, so using the Parish Records means many hours of pouring-over a microfiche reader – often finding frustrating gaps in the records, and even more frustrating illegible or missing records at important points. (Note that what it missing from the Parish Record may survive in the Bishops Transcript, (e.g. John Strefford of 1716). But given all the problems these records are a fascinating glimpse into the past and we should be very grateful to those who have collected and preserved them.
After 1812 there is a period of recording confusion. Parish records continued, and the official records, which started in 1837, did not become compulsory until 1875. It is easy to miss a record in this period. (e.g. David Strefford married at Pontesbury in 1841, after 1837, for whom there is no official marriage record).
After 1875 the official records should be completely reliable but there are oddities.
Fortunately the indexes to the official U.K. records from 1837 onward are available via the Internet and copies of the certificates may be obtained from the Registrar General, again via the Internet. I have used these Internet facilities extensively, so thankyou to the U.K. G.R.O. But a special thanks must go to ‘Scotland’s People’ for the excellent facilities provided for Scottish family historians. ‘Scotland’s People’ puts the U.K. Internet family history facilities to shame.
The whole Strefford history is a remarkable story of very ordinary people. There are no hidden persons of (supposedly) great importance in these 300 years; just ordinary people trying to live as best they could – after 1841, endlessly moving for work. Some are commendable, some perhaps less so; some are mysterious, and there are tragedies too. One, Herbert Henry is a WW1 hero, winning the Military Medal as a Highland Light Infantryman in 1917.
This history was undertaken for, and with, my wife, Pamela Strefford, as a result of our being curious about a gravestone in Hawarden Cemetery, North Wales. A casual investigation of one person (Pam’s Uncle - Thomas Strefford who died in WW1) led to several years of research and travelling to Libraries, Archives and family history locations. Also to our going to Abbeville twice to the War Grave of Pam’s Uncle Thomas, and to my learning something of the rigours of serious research.
This history is still ‘in-progress’ and probably will always be so
It is
dedicated to
the memory of
Thomas Strefford, 2nd Battalion Royal Welch Fusiliers, whose War Grave is at Abbeville in France.
Scottish born, serving in a Welsh Regiment he died in France long ago fighting for all of us, now.
Beginning with the Shropshire Parish Records:
Note that Churchstoke, Chirbury, Bishops Castle, Lydham, More, & Norbury are all adjacent Parishes in South West Shropshire.
(The ParishRegister family history succession is named in bold italic type)
From the Churchstoke Parish Records:
Johs's (Johannes = John) fit (filius= son of) Thomae - (Thomas - 'ae' = parent not child) et (and) Sara Strevord bap. Fuit (he was)
From
the Chirbury Parish Records:
On 9th. September 1744 John Strefford (the elder) married (1) Elizabeth Powell
Elizabeth Powell was the daughter of Robert & Ann Powell - baptised Chirbury June 22nd 1707
22nd
May 1828
David
Strefford (the
elder),
age 64, abode Norbury, buried – More.
(dates tally 1764 to 1828 = 64 years)
On 24 March 1841 John Strefford (the younger), full age, Bachelor Labourer: married Mary Griffiths, full age, Spinster Servant – both of More, at More Parish Church, County of Salop: after Banns (dates unknown). Both made their mark. John’s father – David Strefford (the elder) Tailor. Mary’s father – Samuel Preece, Labourer. Witnesses: David Strefford - made his mark (almost certainly John’s brother – David the younger); and Martha Preece signed (probably the bride’s sister or half-sister).
Note that the reason for the Griffiths/Preece bride’s- surname discrepancy is probably that Mary, the bride, was born to Samuel Preece and his wife Ann Griffiths before they were married, or she was an illegimate daughter of Ann Griffiths before her marriage to Samuel Preece.
From the Pontesbury Parish Records:
3rd May 1843 David Strefford (the younger), age 24, Bachelor Labourer; married Martha Aston, age 22, Spinster Servant – both of Arscott, of Pontesbury Parish, County of Salop: after Banns called 14/23/30th April 1843 in the Parish Church of Pontesbury. Both made their mark. David’s father – David Strefford (the elder) Tailor. Martha’s father – Nathan Aston, Engineer. Witnesses: Frances Aston and Thomas Richards.
(Note this record is of the full post-1837 form but there is no official record)
A
note here about the Strevort, Strefford naming.
In researching the Parish Records I realised that there
was no
standardised spelling. Pre
1837 spelling
seems to have been mainly phonetic.
P.H.
Reaney ‘The Origin of English Surnames’, Routledge
Kegan Paul 1967; draws
attention in Chapter Two to the mis-pronunciation and/or mis-spelling
of names
and to the pronunciation of F as V which occurred in the south of
England. These
pronunciation variables might account
for the interchange of Strevort
and
Strefford – and other variants – approximately
twenty in total. To
support this view I found many examples in
the Parish Registers of the
same persons
being separately recorded as different variations
of Strefford.
Or, were there a separate group of Strevorts who were ‘converted’ to Strefford by the Clergy after 1837? Note John Strefford (the younger) who could not write, being married in March 1841 as Strefford, but may have still thought of himself at the Census later in 1841 as Strevort – the name of his father and Grandfather. Or did the 1841 Census recorder at Hookagate, Shropshire, phonetically spell Strefford as Strevort? The Shropshire Archive records of the name Strefford in the 16th century would perhaps support the existence later of a separate Strevort group – possibly immigrant;, the name seems vaguely Germanic.
However the balance of evidence seems, to me, to favour the more prosaic phonetic-spelling explanation; perhaps together with some later regularisation in transcription.
From hereon information is mainly from the English & Scottish Census records - from 1841 to 1901; and from the English & Scottish Birth, Marriage & Death records - from 1837 (compulsory 1875), and from the I.G.I.
Children of John Strefford (the younger) & Mary:
From More John seems to have moved immediately after his marriage to Mary, to Hookagate south of Shrewsbury, where his mother Jane was living with the Harris family (1841 Census) – presumably after the death of her husband in 1828 (David the Elder). John and Mary’s first child Mary was born at Hookagate. Thier next child Samuel was Christened at Atcham so John & Mary may have moved from Hookagate to Atcham. In 1850 Thomas was born at The Forge, Upton Magna; where John & Mary lived adjacent to John’s brother David Strefford (the younger) together with their mother Jane for the rest of their lives.
Name Born (IGI) Christened(IGI) English G.R.O.
Mary
4/1/1842
11/1/1842 St Chad,
Shrewsbury
Jan/Feb/Mar
1842 Shrewsbury
Samuel 31/3/1844 Atcham not registered
Thomas - 28/7/1850 Upton Magna Jul/Aug/Sept 1850 Atcham
Lizzie
-
2/6/1861 Upton
Magna
April/May/June
1861Atcham
Jane Strefford (nee Vaughan) the wife of David Strefford (the elder) died at Upton Magna on the 15th September 1863 aged 84 (actually 81- born 1782)
The death of John Strefford (the younger) was registered at Atcham in the second quarter of 1884 (born 1814=aged 70); and that of Mary his wife at Atcham aged 64 in the second quarter of 1888.
In the 1861 Census Samuel is not recorded in the parental home at Upton Magna. Samuel is recorded as Samuel Straford at Southcott, Atcham – the estate of Ann Jones – Farmer’s wife employing 6 men and 1 boy; as a Carter & Ploughman, aged 19 (he was actually 17). So Samuel had left home, but seems to return home, to marry in 1867.
Samuel Strefford’s 1867 Marriage Certificate confirms that he was the son of John and Mary Strefford, as follows: Samuel Strefford, full age, Bachelor, Labourer, of Upton Magna; father John Strefford, Labourer; married to: Hannah Preece, full age, Spinster, no occupation given, of Pontesbury; father John Preece, Miner: in the Parish Church of Pontesbury on June 10th 1867. Witnesses were Thomas Preece, (his mark), Emma Strefford (signed), Samuel and Hannah both signed. Samuel resided at Upton Magna, the known home of his parents John and Mary.
(Pontesbury is south west of Shrewsbury still in Shropshire)
After their marriage Samuel & Hannah lived at Pontesbury Hill and Samuel is said to be a Lead Miner. Later Samuel & Hannah moved to Station Road, Pontesbury and Samuel became a Platelayer. Whilst living at Pontesbury Samuel & Hannah had six children:
Edwin Strefford born 1868 (1868 Jan/Feb/Mar Reg. Atcham) IGI says Christened 17/3/1868
John
Strefford born 1870 (1870 Jan/Feb/Mar Reg.
Atcham) I.G.I. says Christened 28/2/1870
Martha Mary
Preece Strefford (1872 July/Aug/Sept Reg. Atcham) IGI says born
25/8/1872
at Pontesbury.
She is not
listed on the English 1881 Census which means that she was not
present
at Pontesbury when the Census was taken. Martha
Mary Preece Strefford died on the 3rd. December
1881, aged 9 at 115
Shieldmuir, Motherwell in Scotland.
(recorded as Martha Mary Strafford). Her
death was notified by her
aunt - D. Crampton .
Richard C.(Charles) Strefford born 1880 (April/May/June 1880 Reg. Atcham)
In late 1881 Samuel and his family moved from Pontesbury to 85 Shieldmuir, Motherwell, Scotland. Martha Mary Preece preceeded her family to Scotland; her aunt D. Crampton was of the Preece family – into which Samuel had married.
At Motherwell Samuel & Hannah had one more child:
Samuel Alfred, born October 14th 1884 at 85 Shieldmuir, Motherwell, fathers occupation - Engineers Labourer
On December 23rd 1890, Samuel
Strefford, cited as Samuel Strafford, died, still at 85 Sheildmuir,
Motherwell. He was
46 years of age and
the cause of death is given as ‘Tubular Disease of the
Heart’ from which he had
suffered for four months. His
death was
notified by Hannah, his widow, who signed as Hannah Strafford (?).
On the 17th November 1888 at Trinity Church, Motherwell, Parish of Dalzeil; after publication according to the forms of the Episcopal Church (of Scotland); Edwin Strefford, Bachelor Iron Shearer married Mary Ann Messenger Spinster Nail Cutter. (I think that this occupation refers to Mary’s earlier employment in Dukinfield). Edwin’s address was given as 85 Shieldmuir - the home of his mother and father Samuel & Hannah. His age is said to be 20. His father was Samuel Strefford, Iron Works Labourer; his mother Hannah Strefford, nee Preece. Mary’s address was given as 91 Shieldmuir. Her age is said to be 23, Her father is Thomas Messenger, her mother Ann Messenger, nee Walton(?). Witnesses were Thomas Messenger and Isobel Whitehead.
Note that Mary Messenger, like Edwin Strefford was an immigrant to Scotland from Stalybridge/Dukinfied, near to Manchester; from where the Messenger family had moved to Shieldmuir, Motherwell between 1881 and 1888.
Obviously Edwin was employed in the
Motherwell Iron Trade, as were his all his brothers excepting Richard
Charles and
Samuel Arthur. William
was employed as
an ‘Ironworker’ aged 13.
Presumably opportunities in that trade had
brought their father Samuel from England
to Scotland.
Perhaps
they worked at the
‘Excelsior’or ‘Etna’ Ironworks
in Shieldmuir, where English workers were
employed.
George born 28th December 1889 at 73 Shieldmuir, father Edwin an Iron Shearer
William born 10th
October 1890
at 73 Shieldmuir, father Edwin an Iron Shearer
Samuel born 17th
June 1892
at 73 Shieldmuir, father Edwin an Iron Shearer
Thomas born 14th
January 1895
at 67 Shieldmuir, father Edwin an Iron Shearer
Note that Edwin and his family have moved from 73 to 67 Shieldmuir
John born 3rd
March 1897 at McGregor’s Land, father Edwin
an
Iron Shearer
Edwin and his family have moved again from 67 Shieldmuir into Mc Gregor’s Land which was a Lodging House – near to Shieldmuir.
Why did Edwin and his family move from 73 Shieldmuir to 67 Shieldmuir then to the Lodging House?
However Edwin and Mary Ann did not stay in Scotland. Before 18/7/1899 (the birthdate of Mary Ann’s next child), Edwin and his family moved from Scotland to Stalybridge, Cheshire, England (to the south of Manchester). Stalybridge was Mary Ann’s original English home. At Stalybridge was the Iron Works of John Summers. At Stalybridge Frank was born:
Frank was Edwin and Mary Ann’s first
English child - born 18th
July 1899
at 4 Harrison St.,
Stalybridge, father an Iron Shearer
– Journeyman.
(Frank Strefford was my wife Pamela's father)
Edwin and Mary Ann had three more English children:
Millicent, (the only girl) born 30th
January 1902
at 24 Gladstone Avenue,
Chester; father
Edwin an Iron Shearer.
Edwin and Mary Ann and their family have moved again, from Stalybridge to Chester.
Edwin, born 6th
July 1903
at Queensferry (no address
given), father Edwin an Ironworker.
Edwin and Mary Ann have moved again from Chester to Queensferry.
Lastly:
Alfred, born 27th
June 1904
at
Queensferry (no address given),
father
Edwin an Ironworker.
Alfred was the last of Edwin and Mary
Ann’s
nine children. They now stayed in Queensferry for the rest of their
lives.
The Strefford descendants of Edwin & Mary Ann’s children still live on Deeside.
The next we hear of Edwin Strefford is from the County of Flint War Memorial Index where he has a record card giving some details of his First World War service:
Edwin
Strefford joined 2/9/1914 (on
the outbreak of
war) aged 46, the 3rd
(reserve or recruiting battalion at
Wrexham) Royal Welch Fusiliers; transferred to Middlesex (Regiment – whose Depot was at Mill Hill, London)
1916, afterwards Labour Centre Trials
R.D.C. Discharged 17/11/1918 from 68th
Protection
Company R.D.C. with the rank of
Sergeant. (Royal Defence Corps
– formed in 1917 from
‘Garrison Troops’ – like the
W.W. 2 Home Guard). (For trials, read tribunals).
(No WW1 Service Papers survive for Edwin Strefford).
Mary
Ann Strefford (nee Messenger) died
on 24th
April 1948
and Edwin Strefford died one year later on 30th
April
1949. When Mary Ann
died they had been
married for 59 years. They
had moved
from Birmingham
and Pontesbury, Shropshire; to
Motherwell where they met and married,
then to Stalybridge,
then Chester,
and finally to Shotton where they made their
home. They had nine
children. On all
the records Edwin’s occupation is Iron Shearer or
Iron Worker. Mary
Ann
does not seem to have worked after she was married.
Edwin and Mary Ann are commemorated in
Harwarden Churchyard, near to the Chapel in the newer cemetery below
the road. (Unrecorded their son Edwin also shares their grave: Edwin Strefford, aged 91, 2/12/1994).
Underneath
the inscriptions for Mary Ann & Edwin is an inscription commemorating their son Thomas who
died on
15th November 1918 in No. 3 Australian General
Hospital, Abbeville,
France; of wounds probably sustained at Englefontaine/Foret de Mormal
on November
4th 1918
when serving with
the 2nd
Battalion Royal Welch Fusiliers.
To whose memory this history is dedicated.
John Strefford The second son of Samuel & Hannah
On the 25th
October 1895 at Shieldmuir, Parish of Dalzeil; after
Banns
according to the forms
of the Primitive
Methodist Church;
John
Strefford, Iron Shearer married Mary Gibson, Dressmaker.
John’s address
was given as McGregor’s
Land - The lodging house
– he was not therefore living in the Strefford family home at
85 Shieldmuir
where he
had been enumerated for the 1891 Scottish Census.
His
age is said to be 25. His
father was Samuel Strefford, deceased, his
mother Hannah Strefford, nee Preece.
Mary’s address was given as 9
Shieldmuir. Her age
is said to be
28, Her father is
John Gibson – Engine Driver, her mother Margaret
Gibson, nee Lindsay. Witnesses
were Thomas Joseph Strefford (John’s
brother) and Margaret Lindsay
Gibson
(probably the brides
mother).
So like his brother Thomas Joseph (see next), John seems to have become associated with Primitive Methodists. Also like Thomas Joseph he was living at the local lodging house, not the family home, when he married.
On 8th January 1898 John and Mary had a baby girl – Margaret Jane Lindsay Strefford, born at Beechaven View, Shieldmuir. The birth being registered by John Strefford, Iron Shearer. Query – Beechaven View – a Nursing Home?
(Margaret Jane Lindsay survived and later married in Scotland).
On May 11th 1899 John and Mary had a second child – Samuel born at 65 Shieldmuir. The birth was registered by John Strefford, Ironworker.
(Samuel also survived and was later married in Scotland).
On January 13th
1901 John and
Mary had a third child – Hannah Preece Strefford
born
at
65 Shieldmuir, (possibly now John
and Mary’s
family home). But the birth was registered not by
John
Strefford but by Mary’s brother James
Gibson. (Hannah
also survived - of which later).
The
fact that this birth was not registered by John Strefford may
indicate that he was not at home.
(Hannah also survived and was probably a witness at her sister's wedding in 1924).
The next that we read of John and Mary is on the 1901 English Census where they are at Old Ferry House, Sealand – Parish of Hawarden, Deeside, North Wales!
On the 1901 English Census they are listed
as: John Strefford
– Head of
Household, aged 31,
Ironworker; also
John’s wife – Mary, nee Gibson, aged 33;
and their children: Margaret
J.(3), Samuel(1) and Hannah (2
months); also Hannah, mother of John (and widow
of Samuel) aged
60 with her children, John’s
brothers:
William (23) and Richard C. (21) - both Marker
Ironworks;
also Samuel A.(Alfred or Arthur) (16)
– Scrap Cutter
Ironworks. All
at Old Ferry House, Hawarden.
So
i(Unrecorded their son Edwin also shares their grave: Edwin Strefford, aged 91, 2/12/1994).t
would seem that John and his family,
his mother, and John’s three unmarried brothers have moved
from Motherwell, Scotland
to Hawarden, England. (John’s
older brother Edwin had also moved from Scotland to
England, with his family, in 1899). John’s
move would seem to be confirmed by
looking at the Scottish 1901 Census which shows that 65 Shieldmuir was
now
occupied by Mary’s father, his wife and their
family. In 1895 Mary was married
from 9 Shieldmuir,
presumably her spinster home, her first child was born at Beechaven
View, her
other two children at 65 Shieldmuir.
From which it could be deduced that John and Mary had made
their home at
65 Shieldmuir with Mary’s parents living at 9 Shieldmuir and
John’s mother at
85 Shieldmuir. Alternatively,
John and
Mary could have made their home with Mary’s parents who had
moved from 9
Shieldmuir to 65 Shieldmuir – this would have made a
household of eleven souls!
On
April 27th 1902 a fourth
child is born to John, Iron Shearer, and Mary
AT 65 SHIELDMUIR,
Parish of Dalzeil, Motherwell.
The child is Jeannie Strefford and the birth
is registered not by the father, but by Annie McKenzie.
(Annie
McKenzie we shall later find out to be Mary’s sister).
Mary,
with John and all their family were
in Hawarden for the 1901 English Census, and not at 65 Shieldmuir which
was
occupied then by Mary’s parents. But in
April 1902 Mary is back at 65 Shieldmuir, where two of her previous
three
children had been born, having John’s baby –
Jeannie, but the birth is again
not registered by John.
On May 22nd 1902 Annie McKenzie, Mary’s sister registered the death of Jeannie Strefford aged three weeks. The cause of death is given as Asthma from which the baby had suffered for 14 days. The address from which the death was registered was again 65 Shieldmuir.
What actually seems to have happened is that John and Mary did move permanently from Motherwell to Hawarden early in 1901; but for the birth of Hannah Preece and the birth and death of Jeanie, Mary returned to her family at 65 Shieldmuir in Scotland - thus all Mary's children are Scottish by birth.
On the 1911 Census John, iron &
sheet steel worker; and Mary and their three surviving children
are enumerated at: Hoddon Cottages, Queensferry, Flintshire; together
with Hannah Strefford (John's mother) and Arthur (Samuel Alfred)
Strefford, iron & sheet steel worker. Also a Visitor - Robert
Gibson, aged 42, assistant boot & shoe repairer, normally resident
in Wishaw, Lanark (Mary's elder brother?).
Hannah Strefford, wife of Samuel and mother of all the Strefford, Pontesbury-born and Scottish-born, brothers died on the 28th Novemember 1913, aged 73, registered at Hawarden, Born in Habberley Shropshire, of the Preece family, she married Samuel, moved to Scotland, then to Hawarden. She had seven children - six boys and a girl Martha Mary Preece who died aged 9 in 1881 in Scotland.
John Strefford died on 4th November 1915, still resident at Hoddon Cottages, Queensferry; aged 45, an Ironworker. His death was registered by his brother Samuel Arthur (Alfred) Strefford.
After John's death Mary seems to have returned to Scotland with her three children where her death is recorded in 1917, as follows: Mary Strefford widow of John Strefford, sheet iron worker; died July 17th 1917, aged 50; at 50 Petershill Road, Glasgow. Father - John Gibson, Iron Works Engine Keeper, deceased. Mother - Margaret Jane Gibson, nee Lindsay, deceased. Registered by Annie Mckenzie, sister, in Glasgow.William Strefford, Richard Charles Strefford, and Samuel Arthur (Alfred) Strefford remained on Deeside - they all married and all worked in the Iron trades; and and their descendants still live on Deeside.
First:
Margaret Jane Lindsay Strefford, Paper
Worker, aged 26,
married James
Grosert Dryden, Litho Artist, aged
31, at 44 High Street,
Burntisland after banns according to the forms of the Ecclesiastical
Church of
Scotland on the 22nd July 1924.
They were both resident at 56 Laverack Hall Street,
Carstairs, Glasgow. James’s
father is cited as
John Dryden, Joiner, deceased, and his mother as Isabella Lawson Dryden
nee
Allan. Margaret’s
father is cited as
John Strefford, Iron Shearer, deceased; and her mother as Mary
Strefford nee
Gibson, deceased. Witnesses
were Thomas
Gibson of Primrose Place, Whitegates (probably
the bride’s
uncle – 1901 Scottish Census at 65 Shieldmuir) and
Hannah Strefford also of
56
Laverack Hall Street. (almost certainly
the
bride’s sister.)
Margaret Jane Lindsay died on 28/9/1956 in Glasgow Royal Infirmary – the widow of James Grosert Dryden, Lithographic Artist. Her death being notified by her son J.(?) Dryden. Margaret’s husband James Grosert pre-deceased her on 5/6/1952 at 9 Empsay (?) Road, Bishoprigs, (?) – a Block Printer and Artist, his death being notified by his Brother in Law.
Second:
Samuel Strefford, Boilermaker, aged 24, married Marion Primrose, Domestic Servant, aged 20, at 103 Bath Street, Glasgow by Declaration (special license) in the presence of two witnesses: 1) Gilbert Wines?, Thornwood Road, Glasgow; and 2) Edith Noris?, 210 Nithdale Road, Glasgow; on the 25th July 1923. (The witnesses may have been Sheriff’s Office staff). Samuel was resident at Poleshill Road, Glasgow, Marion was resident at Midlen(?) Street, Glasgow. Samuel’s father is cited as John Strefford, Iron & Steel Worker, deceased; and his mother as Mary Strefford nee Gibson, deceased. Marion’s father is cited as Robert Primrose, Locomotive Works foreman and her mother as Marion Primrose nee McRail?, deceased. The warrant for the marriage was issued by the Sheriff on July 25th 1923. (Marriage by warrant was not uncommon in Scotland, or by licence in England. This marriage did not seem to involve either family). 'Scotland's People' records Marion's death in 1988, aged 86, at Motherwell & Wishaw.
Third:
Hannah Preeece was born on 13th January 1901 at 65 Shieldmuir but the birth of this child was registered not by her father John but by her mother's brother. Hannah was probably a witness to her sister's wedding in 1924. 'Scotland's People' records that in 1944 Hannah P. married Duncan McArthur in the District of Springburn, Glasgow/Lanark County. 'Scotland's People' also records her death in 1996 aged 95 in Glasgow, her 'other' (married) name being given as McArthur.
The Strefford descendants of Samuel and Marion Strefford may still live in Scotland
.
Thomas
Joseph Strefford
(The
third son of Samuel and Hannah)
On the 13th April 1897 Thomas Joseph Strefford, Bachelor, aged 22, Ironworker; of McGregor’s Land, Shieldmuir: married Adeline Elizabeth Bill, Spinster, aged 24, no occupation given: of 2 Duke St., Motherwell. Thomas’s father and mother were cited as Samuel Strefford, Engine Fitter, deceased; and Hannah Strefford, nee Preece. The witnesses were David and Louisa Nassell. The marriage took place at McGregor’s Bgs(?) after banns according to the forms of the Primitive Methodist Church. This marriage is interesting because for whatever reason Thomas Joseph was no longer resident at 85 Shieldmuir, the Strefford family home of the 1891 Scottish Census. He was married from and at McGregor’s Land. In Scotland a ‘Land’ was a lodging-house of which there were many. McGregor’s Land figures again and again in the Scottish Strefford story. It also seems that the Bill family were Primitive Methodists. These were Methodists who wished to return to the original teachings of John Wesley and had separated from the main Methodist movement in 1810. Primitive Methodists were strict, which would have been significant as Adeline was expecting a baby when she and Thomas married.
On August 2nd 1897 Adeline and Thomas’s first baby, Adeline Blanch, was born at Duke St., Motherwell. The birth was registered by Thomas who gave his occupation as an Ironworker.
On August 17th Thomas registered the death of this child at 2 Duke St., Motherwell, aged 14 days, the cause of death being given as Gastric Catarrh.
(2 Duke St was Adeline’s parental home).
On November 25th 1898 Adeline and Thomas’s second baby, Samuel James, was born at 65 Milton St., Motherwell. The birth was registered by Thomas who gave his Occupation as an Ironworker.
On August 25th 1899 Thomas registered the death of this child at 65 Milton St., Motherwell, aged 9 months, the cause of death being given as diarrhoea.
(Adeline and Thomas now seem to have their own home or perhaps they were still living with Adeline’s parents but they all had moved to Milton St.)
On June 20th 1900 Adeline and Thomas’s third baby , Hannah, was born at 65 Milton St., Motherwell. The birth was registered by Thomas who gave his occupation as an Ironworker.
On July 14th 1901 Thomas registered the death of this child at 65 Milton St., Motherwell, aged (incorrectly) 3 months, the cause of death being nausea (I think).
On July 18th Adeline Elizabeth, Thomas’s wife,died at 65 Milton St, Motherwell. She was 27 years old and the cause of death is given as Anaemia from which she had suffered for four months. Her death was registered by her father, James Bill - who made his mark and gave his occupation as an Iron Roller. Adeline’s mother is cited as Adeline Bill nee Nassell.
(The cause of death should have been continuous child bearing and probably poor diet!)
On the 1901 Scottish Census Thomas Strafford (spelt incorrectly) is listed as: son in law – widower, Ironworker; aged 26, in the household of James Bill at 65 Milton St, Motherwell.
Obviously
The Bill
family
had moved from 2 Duke St., to 65 Milton
St.
Maybe Thomas
and Adeline had lived their short married life there, with her
family.
The next we read of Thomas Joseph Strefford is the death certificate of yet another daughter: Mary McLintock Strefford on April 24th 1909 at 33 Milton Road, Motherwell – usual residence 126 Caledonian Road, Motherwell, aged 7 weeks, the cause of death being acute bronchitis. The father is Thomas Joseph, Ironworker; but the mother is Mary Strefford nee Neilly - Thomas Joseph had married again. ('Scotland's People' records the death of Mary McLintock Strefford in 1909 at Dalzeil, Lanark; but there is no record of her birth or the marriage of Thomas Joseph and Mary)
However the death of another Mary McLintock Strefford is recorded by 'Scotland's People' in 1971, aged 59, hence born 1912 (no 'other' name is given - perhaps unmarried). I can find no birth record for the second Mary McLintock Strefford but it is probably reasonable to assume that she was the daughter of Thomas Strefford and his second wife Mary.
Thomas and Mary seem to have also had another child Hannah Preece in 1910, for which again I can find no birth record. 'Scotland's People' records that in 1934 Hannah P. Strefford married Donald Glen in the District of Dalzeil, County of Lanark. 'Scotland's People' also records the death of Hannah Preece on 1/5/1995: Father Thomas Strefford, Mother Mary Strefford nee Neilly, married name Glen; aged 85 = born 1910; living in Bonnyrigg and died in Edinburgh Royal Infirmary after a fall. (Note Thomas Joseph's brother John also had a daughter named Hannah Preece, born in 1901).
So the chronolgy of the children of Thomas Joseph and his second wife Mary is: Mary McLintock(1) died 1909; Hannah Preece born 1910, died 1995; Mary McLintock(2) born 1912, died 1971: and a son T. Strefford who notified his father's death in 1995.
Thomas Joseph, now aged 71, notified the death from cerebral haemorrhage of his second wife Mary Strefford, nee Neilly, aged 73, on August 11th 1946. (So they were married for 40 years +) Thomas still gives his occupation as an Ironworker now of 23 Milton St., Motherwell (So he had not moved far in 50 years). His wife’s father is cited as James Neilly, deceased; and her mother as Mary Neilly nee McLintock .
After his second wife died Thomas Joseph stayed in Scotland – his death is recorded at 34 Harthorden Gardens, Bonnyrigg, Cockpen, Midlothian; on June 1st 1955, the cause of death being cardio vascular degeneration. He is recorded as a retired steel worker, widower of Mary Neilly and his death was notified by his SON, T. Strefford (perhaps Thomas Joseph was living with this son when he died?). So Thomas Joseph and his second wife Mary did have at least one more child, a son.
The Strefford descendants of Thomas
Joseph’s son ,and perhaps other sons, may still live in
Scotland.
Returning now back to Upton Magna to consider the children of David Strefford (the younger) & Martha:
From More, David Strefford (the younger) married Martha Aston at Pontesbury, then seems to have moved to Shrewsbury (Meole Brace) then finally and permanently to Upton Magna where he lived adjacent to his Brother John (the younger) until his death. All these places are to the south of Shrewsbury in Shropshire. David worked as a Farm Labourer all of his life.
Their Children were as follows:
William
born Meole Brace no record found Christening
or Registration
George born Upton Magna 27/10/1850 Registered 4th quarter 1850 Died 21/3/1855
Benjemin
born Upton Magna 8/2/1857 (see
following)
Not
registered
Jane
born
Upton Magna 20/2/1859
(see following)
Registered
1st quarter 1859
John
born Upton Magna
22/9/1861 Registered 4thquarter
1861
Edward born Upton Magna 21/2/1869 Registered 1st quarter 1869
(Birth/Christening,
George’s death,
information from the IGI)
David
Strefford (the
younger) died on 20th March 1892, aged 78 (?
actually 74),
residence: The Forge, Upton Magna.
The
death of Martha Strefford is recorded in the English GRO. Deaths index
for
Oct/Nov/Dec 1896, aged 73 registered at Atcham.
Benjemin and
Jane
Strefford are not central to this Family History. However it is
possible that
the descendants of Benjemin live on Deeside, and that the descendants
of Jane
live in Lanarkshire in addition to the central family line through John
Strefford (the younger) and his son Samuel.
Benjemin Strefford:
The
1861 English Census records a Benjemin
(?) Strefford aged 4 resident with his father David and mother Martha
Strefford
at The Forge, Upton Magna (IGI says Christened 8th Feb 1857 at
Upton
Magna), but there is no record of Benjemin on the 1871
English Census or
any subsequent Census up to 1911. However
in 1884 a
Benjamin Strefford lived at 18
Henllan St., Denbigh,
working as a Butler and registered the birth of a daughter Martha
Annie on 7th
May 1884.
Benjamin’s wife
was Annie
nee Roberts, but I can find no marriage record.
Nor can I find any death record for either Benjamin or
Annie. Note that
the death of a Martha Annie cited
as born 16th
February 1920
was registered at Shrewsbury in
September 1995 – was this a daughter of Benjamin’s
daughter? Benjemin
is a mystery, but if any children of
Benjamin stayed in Wales after 1884, then there were Streffords in
North Wales
before the return of Samuel’s children, Edwin & John;
William, Richard
Charles & Samuel Arthur, in 1899 – 1901.
Jane Strefford – her son Herbert Henry Strefford M.M.:
Herbert
Henry Strefford seems to have been
the illegitimate son of Jane Strefford, daughter of David Strefford the
brother
of John Strefford (father of Samuel
Strefford who moved to Scotland)
all at Upton Magna, Shropshire.
Jane
Strefford was Christened 20th
February 1859
(IGI): father David Strefford, mother Martha.
Herbert
Henry Strefford was born on the
4th January 1890 at 9
Beeches Lane, Shrewsbury. On
his birth certificate
the boxes for father’s name and occupation are empty, except
the name Henry has
been written then crossed out in the ‘Father’s
Name’ box. Herbert
Henry’s mother is recorded as: Jane
Strefford, a domestic servant, of The Forge, Upton Magna, nr
Shrewsbury. The
birth was recorded on the
21st January 1890 by Jane Strefford –
mother.
On
the 1891 English Census Jane and Herbert
Henry are recorded as follows: William Phillips, Head of Household,
aged
31, Waggoner, recorded at 1
Downton Lane, Upton
Magna. WIFE
Jane Phillips, aged 42, no occupation. Herbert
H. Strefford, son, aged 11.
William
Phillips, son, aged 6.
Nothing
further is recorded (except in the 1911 Census?)
of Herbert
Henry Strefford until 27th
November 1915
when he volunteered to serve in WW1 (conscription
was not introduced until May 1916).
Fortunately the enlistment document for Herbert Henry
still exists,
without unfortunately any other part of his WW1 service
record. This document records
Herbert Henry as
employed at Nordeston(?) Castle, Newtown
Mains, Scotland, as a Gardener, aged 25 years 11
months. He enlisted into the
Highland Light Infantry.
So
between the 1901 English Census and 1915 Herbert Henry left Shropshire
and
moved to Scotland to work as a Gardener.
On 21st
July 1919 – obviously
having survived WW1, Herbert Henry married Mary Marston, at Church
Stretton, Shropshire.
Details of this marriage are as follows:
Herbert Henry Strefford, aged 29, Bachelor, Gardener, Residing at Upton Magna at the time of his marriage, father David Strefford, deceased. (Herbert Henry seems to have recorded his grandfather David as his father?) married: Mary Marston, aged 31, Spinster, no occupation, residing at Marshbrook; father John Marston, Platelayer. Witnesses: Charles Mapp & Lucy Elizabeth Lancaster; at the Parish Church of Church Stretton; Sidney C. Woods, Rector. The birth of Mary Marston was registered April/May/June 1888 at Atcham as Mary Elizabeth Marston. She is recorded on the 1901 English Census at Marshbrook, Little Stretton (The same place as on her wedding certificate. Mary seems not to have used her second Christian name).
In
1924 ‘Scotlands People’ records the
death of a child Gladys Clare Strefford, aged 2 ½ years from
malignant scarlet
fever. Father
Herbert H. Strefford, a
Gardener. Mother
Mary Strefford, nee
Marston, no occupation. Residing at
Browntons Cottages, Bankle,
Parish of Dalzeil, County of Lanark, Scotland. (The birth of Gladys
Clare is also recorded on 'Scotlands People' for 1924 at Dalzeil,
Lanark)
But
the birth/death records for Gladys Clare shows
that Herbert Henry Strefford and his wife Mary did return to
Scotland,
where he had enlisted in 1917, after their marriage in 1919. Today
their descendants still live
in Scotland including Herbert Henry's Grandson, also named Herbert
Henry, born 1951.
The Deeside Streffords:
The descendants of the nine children of Edwin & Mary Ann, who returned from Scotland in 1899 to: Stalybridge, Chester, then Shotton 1903.
The descendants of William, Richard Charles, and Samuel Arthur; Edwin’s younger brothers; who returned from Scotland in 1901 with John - also Edwin’s brother, & Mary his wife.
Possibly the descendants of Benjemin Strefford, son of David Strefford (the younger) born at Upton Magna in 1857, married to Annie Roberts, working as a Butler in Denbigh and registering a daughter Martha Annie there in 1884.
So the Streffords now living on Deeside are probably descendants of David Strefford (Tailor) the elder and his predecessors. Then - of either of the two Upton Magna brothers: John Strefford (the younger) via Samuel – to Scotland 1881: then Samuel’s sons: Edwin, William, Richard Charles & Samuel Arthur, all of whom, by various routes, returned from Scotland to England 1899-1901. Or also possibly David Strefford (the younger) via Benjamin his son – in Denbigh 1884. Note: NOT the descendants of John Strefford all of whom returned to Scotalnd after John's death in 1915.
The Scottish Streffords:
With the exception of Thomas Joseph Strefford , ALL the Streffords who went to Scotland in 1881 from Pontesbury; except Samuel (Upton Magna & Pontesbury) son of John Strefford the younger, and the little girl Martha Mary Preece; both of whom died in Scotland: plus those born in Scotland since that time, moved back from Motherwell to England: Edwin & family to Stalybridge c. 1899, John & group to Hawarden c. 1901.
None of Thomas Joseph’s Scottish children by his first marriage survived, but it is recorded, by inference from his death certificate of 1955 that he had at least one Scottish son by his second marriage, whose Strefford descendants may still live in Scotland.
John Strefford's family did not stay in Hawarden after his death in 1915. John's wife Mary died in Scotland in 1917 but her three Scottish children: Margaret Jane Lindsay, Samuel and Hannah Preece all survived and the Scottish marriages of Margaret Jane and Samuel are recorded . Hence the descendants of Samuel Strefford may still live in Scotland.
Herbert Henry Strefford M.M., (Upton Magna) son of Jane Strefford, daughter of David Strefford the younger – the brother of John Strefford the younger, must have moved from the household of William Phillips (his mother’s husband) at 1, Downton Lane, Upton Magna between the time of the English 1901 Census and 1915 when he volunteered in Scotland to serve in WW1. He married after WW1 and had a child, Gladys Clare, who survived only 2 ½ years. Today the descendants of Herbert Henry Strefford M.M. still live in Scotland.
So the Streffords now living in Scotland are probably descendants of David Strefford (Tailor, the elder) and his predecessors. Then - of either of the two Upton Magna brothers: John Strefford the (younger) via Samuel – to Scotland 1881; and David Strefford (the younger) via Jane/Herbert Henry – to Scotland 1901-1915.
.
Shropshire
Archives, Shrewsbury.
Parish Record on
Microfiche & Transcripts – Books & Boxes
(Thankyou to Mrs Christine Abram
S.F.H.S. for showing to me the books & boxes)
Herefordshire Archives, Hereford.
Hereford & Shropshire Parish Records and Bishops
Transcripts on Microfilm.
also
Shropshire (Hereford Diocese) Wills on Microfilm.
Powys Archives, Llandrindod Wells. Welsh Parish Records on Microfilm
Shropshire
Parish Register Research via the
Microfiche loan service of the Shropshire
Family History
Society
(Thankyou again to Mrs Christine Abram,
S.F.H.S.)
South West Shropshire Historical & Archaeological Society – Bishops Castle Registers
Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society – Welshpool Birth Register 1772 - 1812
Scotland’s People – the Scottish Official Family History Internet resource
English General Register Office Birth, Marriage & Death records and Census information1841 – 1901 (all via the Internet)
Shropshire Parish Records Sets 1 & 2 – S & N Genealogy Supplies – 2 CD’s
Shropshire Burials Index 3rd Edition. Shropshire Family History Society CD
English Parish Records Shropshire (Hereford Diocese) – Ancestry.com CD
LDS International Genealogical Index (Mormons) (via Internet)
Contact at: geoffrey.jefftee@gmail.com
Geoff Taylor 24/12/2007-OneTel/Nvu,16/3/2008, 16/8/08-amend, 22/2/09 - Zen/Nvu/FileZilla/123-Reg, 25/2/09, 4/3/09-amend, 6/7/09-amend, 17/1/2010 revision regarding death of John Strefford and inclusion of 1911 Census data, 17/5/2010 John Streff -1716 not 15.